is, we have to be fact-based. this accumulated cyclone energy index, ryan from weather bell analytics, probably the best tropical meteorology school in the world, it the number. it shows the power of hurricanes and it just doesn't show a change since we started looking at it in 1972. i have nothing to do with that. >> on that one point, what do you say? >> we have very limited data series on hurricanes. so -- >> every one since 1972. >> we have much better data, much longer series on temperature and on sea rise and certainly there is an agreement, international panel on climate change, for example, they have a low -- pretty low common denominator for what they can agree to. what they have agreed to is we can experience more greater hurricanes, not a greater frequency. >> for a moment, mr. michaels, you're out of power at the moment? >> i am. i was watching the coned's spokesman? >> were you satisfied with that explanation? >> as consumer, i want it on immediately. >> a lot of people i know, if this happened in britain, it would have been a few weeks before anything was back on. so new